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      Thaisen posted an update

      3 months ago

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      Different layout philosophies

      One thing I noticed when I stared to delve into the english part of Model Railroad Youtube was how different the layout across the big pond seem to be build. Here people usually build quite deep continuous loop layouts in L or U shapes mostly, or just a rectangle along the wall of the attic or basement , with a few Point to point and the very rare around the room. The focus of most layouts is one big main station and a big depot with one parade track. Also lots of automation, The Miniaturwunderland bringing it to the extreme ofc.

      The other side of the big water looked very different, at least to me. Here its either island or shelf layouts it seems. Obviously with the lack of proper public transports, gone are the big main stations, hardly any roundhouses, no catenary, the main focus of the layout based mostly around operations with industries or running looooooooong trains. Still it brought me to the point of why at least shelf and modular layouts are not as popular here as they are in the west. To me at least, they feel more exciting to play with on a day to day basis.

      This also is true for the different model railway club layouts I have visited. The one of the ESV Knittelfeld (https://modelleisenbahn-knittelfeld.at/) for example is in the basement of the railway station, one big long layout, driving with the panthographs up. Its a lovely layout, but the typical european style, automated traffic. On the other hand when I was on vacation in Canada, via a friend I got to visit his club (I think the York Railway Modellers), trains controlled via the smartphone, but focus on operations, from shunting to mainline traffic. For me at least I havnt seen a similar club here, not counting groups like FREMO and other exhibition layouts.
      Now I have to say I wonder why that happened, and also would like to hear your take on what type of layout you guys prefer.

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      Modelleisenbahn Knittelfeld – Willkommen bei der Modelleisenbahnanlage in Knittelfeld

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        BMR777

        That’s some interesting observations. I think from an American perspective, unless you live in a city or dense urban area you’re not regularly going to see passenger trains, just freight. Even if you do see passenger trains, they take a back seat to freight, since most of the tracks in the US are owned by freight railroads.

        I think in the US you will still see U or L shaped layouts, along with around the room type layouts, but it’s interesting that in Europe there are not too many shelf type layouts. I know shelf layouts are good for Americans who don’t have a lot of space so it’s interesting that European modelers don’t tend to make shelf layouts, especially as I would assume everything is bigger in the US so European modelers might not have the luxury of extra space, basements, etc as much as Americans do.

        The shelf layout is really a freight-centric layout, so if the focus for European modelers is mostly on passenger operations it’s hard to fit more than a couple of stations onto a shelf layout, whereas for American modelers you can fit many different freight industries into a really confined space and have the layout still have a purpose.

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          Thaisen

          @BMR777 I do agree with you. But still i find it funny and interesting that the style is not just for home layouts but also for club layouts 🙂

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            Thaisen

            @BMR777 I do agree with you. But still i find it funny and interesting that the style is not just for home layouts but also for club layouts 🙂

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            Modeltrainmedia

            Interesting observations indeed! I think the focus on type of trains is different. Like BMR said a lot of europeans focus more on passenger trains while in the US it is mainly long freight trains.

            And obviously the landscape regarding train infrastructure is very different between europe and the US.

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              casey-jones

              I would have to say regarding the differences between the styles of layouts. there are three main types, one is a club layout which is usually set up in large space and with multiple members. the second is the display layout usually done in museums and exhibit spaces. limited to the space allotted. built and maintained usually by a small group of modelers. the third is the personal layout usually owed by one person and set up in an apartment or a house where the layout is dictated by the space available. variations of these layout types can be found everywhere modelers exist. the exception to this is the modular layout. usually set up as a temporary display and then put away when the event is over.

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